We will need to have a more widespread re-emergence of CHRIST’S ekklesia/assembly model to see more new covenant prophesying from the members of the Body of CHRIST, where CHRIST is the Head and His voice can be heard through various believers in His assemblies/ekklesias.
Daniel 9 gave the timeline to seal vision and prophecy. This was to be fulfilled in the 4th kingdom which was realized in the 1st century. This was the end of the office of prophet .
John the Baptist tested Jesus’ words and works by the preceding (proven) scriptures and Torah. Matthew 11:1-7
We should test everything by the word of the Lord. Including every book given to us (canonized) by men. This may seem to be arguing in a circle to some persons. Those persons need to think more about the issue. It’s not.
@christopherradic2183on August 12, 2025 at 12:38 am
The Picture Of A Prophet by Leonard Ravenhill
The prophet in his day is fully accepted of God and totally rejected by men.
Years back, Dr. Gregory Mantle was right when he said, “No man can be fully accepted until he is totally rejected.” The prophet of the Lord is aware of both these experiences. They are his “brand name.”
The group, challenged by the prophet because they are smug and comfortably insulated from a perishing world in their warm but untested theology, is not likely to vote him “Man of the year” when he refers to them as habituates of the synagogue of Satan!
The prophet comes to set up that which is upset. His work is to call into line those who are out of line! He is unpopular because he opposes the popular in morality and spirituality. In a day of faceless politicians and voiceless preachers, there is not a more urgent national need than that we cry to God for a prophet! The function of the prophet, as Austin-Sparks once said, “has almost always been that of recovery.”
The prophet is God’s detective seeking for a lost treasure. The degree of his effectiveness is determined by his measure of unpopularity. Compromise is not known to him.
He has no price tags.
He is totally “otherworldly.”
He is unquestionably controversial and unpardonably hostile.
He marches to another drummer!
He breathes the rarefied air of inspiration.
He is a “seer” who comes to lead the blind.
He lives in the heights of God and comes into the valley with a “thus saith
the Lord.”
He shares some of the foreknowledge of God and so is aware of
impending judgment.
He lives in “splendid isolation.”
He is forthright and outright, but he claims no birthright.
His message is “repent, be reconciled to God or else…!”
His prophecies are parried.
His truth brings torment, but his voice is never void.
He is the villain of today and the hero of tomorrow.
He is excommunicated while alive and exalted when dead!
He is dishonored with epithets when breathing and honored with
epitaphs when dead.
He is a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, but few “make the grade” in his class.
He is friendless while living and famous when dead.
He is against the establishment in ministry; then he is established as a saint
by posterity.
He eats daily the bread of affliction while he ministers, but he feeds the Bread of
Life to those who listen.
He walks before men for days but has walked before God for years.
He is a scourge to the nation before he is scourged by the nation.
He announces, pronounces, and denounces!
He has a heart like a volcano and his words are as fire.
He talks to men about God.
He carries the lamp of truth amongst heretics while he is lampooned by men.
He faces God before he faces men, but he is self-effacing.
He hides with God in the secret place, but he has nothing to hide in
the marketplace.
He is naturally sensitive but supernaturally spiritual.
He has passion, purpose and pugnacity.
He is ordained of God but disdained by men.
Our national need at this hour is not that the dollar recover its strength, or that we save face over the Watergate affair, or that we find the answer to the ecology problem. We need a God-sent prophet!
I am bombarded with talk or letters about the coming shortages in our national life: bread, fuel, energy. I read between the lines from people not practiced in scaring folk. They feel that the “seven years of plenty” are over for us. The “seven years of famine” are ahead. But the greatest famine of all in this nation at this given moment is a FAMINE OF THE HEARING OF THE WORDS OF GOD (Amos 8:11).
Millions have been spent on evangelism in the last twenty-five years. Hundreds of gospel messages streak through the air over the nation every day. Crusades have been held; healing meetings have made a vital contribution. “Come-outers” have “come out” and settled, too, without a nation-shaking revival. Organizers we have. Skilled preachers abound. Multi-million dollar Christian organizations straddle the nation. BUT where, oh where, is the prophet? Where are the incandescent men fresh from the holy place? Where is the Moses to plead in fasting before the holiness of the Lord for our moldy morality, our political perfidy, and sour and sick spirituality?
GOD’S MEN ARE IN HIDING UNTIL THE DAY OF THEIR SHOWING FORTH. They will come. The prophet is violated during his ministry, but he is vindicated by history.
There is a terrible vacuum in evangelical Christianity today. The missing person in our ranks is the prophet. The man with a terrible earnestness. The man totally otherworldly. The man rejected by other men, even other good men, because they consider him too austere, too severely committed, too negative and unsociable.
Let him be as plain as John the Baptist.
Let him for a season be a voice crying in the wilderness of modern theology and
stagnant “churchianity.”
Let him be as selfless as Paul the apostle.
Let him, too, say and live, “This ONE thing I do.”
Let him reject ecclesiastical favors.
Let him be self-abasing, nonself-seeking, nonself-projecting, nonself- righteous,
nonself-glorying, nonself-promoting.
Let him say nothing that will draw men to himself but only that which will move
men to God.
Let him come daily from the throne room of a holy God, the place where he has
received the order of the day.
Let him, under God, unstop the ears of the millions who are deaf through the
clatter of shekels milked from this hour of material mesmerism.
Let him cry with a voice this century has not heard because he has seen a vision
no man in this century has seen. God send us this Moses to lead us from the
wilderness of crass materialism, where the rattlesnakes of lust bite us and where
enlightened men, totally blind spiritually, lead us to an ever-nearing Armageddon.
God have mercy! Send us PROPHETS!
Thank you, Pastor John. This is very helpful and clarifying very practical questions about the gift of prophecy! Dt 18:20-22 "20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him."
Prophesy is building up and edifying others not predicting the future. The old testament focused on warnings and foretelling that were abused my mediums, astrologers, and fortune tellers much like the experience he had with his wife. So sad.
I hear a lot of “God Told Me” these days. Buddy, if God told you, and you tell them, they will know God is speaking if they Have the Holy Spirit.
If it is from the Word of God (exactly) then you say “Thus says the Lord”. It’s simple.
I, too, have had terrible experiences and have fabricated so many "prophecies" that I came to despise it. But coming back to Scripture is refreshing. I pray the Lord guides me and helps me understand more on the topic and helps to be consistent with His word.
@The.Alabama.Woodsmanon August 12, 2025 at 12:54 am
If you say, "Thus sayest The Lord…." and what follows is not aligned with the bible or is less than 100% accurate in its execution (not coming to pass as stated), then it is a lie and the one who spoke it is a liar and a false prophet. God has not become a God of 50% accuracy…… wake up people; stop falling for the false prophets schemes and fame mongers and moneymaking tactics.
For 1 Cor. 14:3, the KJV says "to edification" (instruct or improve someone morally or intellectually), "and exhortation" (to give warnings or urgent advise), "and comfort" (to strengthen; to invigorate; to cheer or enliven). So, prophesy isn’t always glittery news. It is good, in the sense that it can benefit those who hear it, drawing them to the Lord, toward eternal salvation and entry into the Heaven to come.
@ScotchIrishHoundsmanon August 12, 2025 at 12:57 am
Years ago, a friend of mine who was raised Christian went through a really rough time. His grandparents raised him and his grandfather died. He decided that God wasn’t real. I sat out one night and got in a heated yet brotherly conversation with him about every doubt he had. He’d look online and pull up different arguments and I never had to pull out my phone for anything, the Holy Spirit just gave me guidance, instantly refuting every single point he made. And he never told me that it changed anything, and I wouldn’t take the credit even if he did, but today, that man is a Christian with a wife and a beautiful baby boy. And whether our conversation had anything to do with his change of heart or not, I am so thankful to the Lord that he would let ME experience that. God is so good!!!
@Tengoku-RyuKarateKobujutsuon August 12, 2025 at 12:58 am
Love this man and his humility. As a continuationist pastor, I appreciate his teachings and approach to the gifts of the Spirit. More charismatics should be marking John Piper at the top of their list of teachers to listen to and learn from.
Thank you Pastor John for your commitment to the word of God. On many occasions I find that in a sea of bad preaching there are the few great men who stand out with the truth. Your videos are always life giving and answered hard questions I’ve struggled with. Thank you for being committed to the truth and shepherding the flock of God with humility.
So often a word of wisdom (or knowledge) is false, simply because it’s not nearly miraculously insightful enough to be divinely inspired; neither is it presenting a message that’s useful.
A perfect example of a legitimate word of wisdom is the prophecy that a famine would come in Acts 11:27-30. It was a word that came to pass, and preparing for the famine saved lives…
But when people stand up at prayer meetings and say, "Behold, the Lord says ‘I am with thee, and thou art with me, and we are together. So fear not, for I am with thee…’" – it’s someone using vague, pseudo-spiritual language to pawn off that they’re a prophet.
And people do it for the same reason Pharisees pray in public: because we want to be admired by the synagogue people. Raise the standard and you’ll get rid of a world of false utterances.
Somebody help me out. I was told that Piper is a strong Reformed Calvinist and that they are "cessationists," meaning they believe that the "spooky" kinds of gifts ceased with the Apostolic Age. Am I wrong about Piper? If so, how? In this video he even mentions teaching his people to ask for the gift of tongues. I thought that was anathema to Calvinists. What’s the deal?
I thought that this short explanation was helpful: The Apostle Paul did not write “covet to preach”, but rather, “covet to prophesy”.
The Apostle said prophecy is to be coveted above all spiritual gifts. Why? Because by prophecy God speaks by the Spirit to the church directly. Whereas preaching (more properly “teaching“) is second-hand.
I do not refer to that which purports to be prophecy, but to the God-given gift of prophecy which has been tried and tested. That which flows from the Lord Himself through holy vessels, and which edifies the saints of God – building up the Lord’s dwelling house.
Preaching may edify, indeed does often edify, but it is nevertheless “second-hand”. Genuine prophetic utterance is the stream of the Spirit flowing directly into the church, and speaks the living words of God. It is always authoritative, always clear, always pure, always unambiguous. It is God speaking by His Spirit directly to His saints. It carries those who flow in it. It enlightens the understanding in all who “hear what the Spirit is saying“ to them.
It is the “Spirit of prophecy” that is “the testimony (witness – μαρτυρία marturia) of Jesus”.
God does not make convenants with primitives, especially primitives who sacrifice their first born son in order to gain some mystical approval. In order to bargain you need to have something of value, which you don’t have. If you don’t get your way with the universe, what are you going to do, throw a temper tantrum?
When God created the universe He did not ask your permission or advice.
Go get a single grain of sand and place it on your desk and look at it every single day to remind yourself, "This is you."
http://www.desiringGod.org
Barnabas Piper. Now that is a great attorney name (or judge) if ever I heard one.
This is so true
We will need to have a more widespread re-emergence of CHRIST’S ekklesia/assembly model to see more new covenant prophesying from the members of the Body of CHRIST, where CHRIST is the Head and His voice can be heard through various believers in His assemblies/ekklesias.
Prophecy that is from God is always uplifting…..
i love him. so sincere and connected. Let’s all continue to cover him John Piper in prayer.
#JEWISH
Can women prophesy to crowds?
Prophecy today is charismatic fortune telling, highly dangerous.
Or, simply put, "Covet earnestly the best gifts."
Excellent thank you
Pastor John is a Reformed Baptist If Im not mistaken (correct me on this). It’s cool that hes not a cessationist.
Daniel 9 gave the timeline to seal vision and prophecy. This was to be fulfilled in the 4th kingdom which was realized in the 1st century. This was the end of the office of prophet .
Thank you❤
you most certainly do test Isaiah’s word.
Deuteronomy 13, Deut 18, Numbers 5
John the Baptist tested Jesus’ words and works by the preceding (proven) scriptures and Torah. Matthew 11:1-7
We should test everything by the word of the Lord. Including every book given to us (canonized) by men. This may seem to be arguing in a circle to some persons. Those persons need to think more about the issue. It’s not.
The Picture Of A Prophet by Leonard Ravenhill
The prophet in his day is fully accepted of God and totally rejected by men.
Years back, Dr. Gregory Mantle was right when he said, “No man can be fully accepted until he is totally rejected.” The prophet of the Lord is aware of both these experiences. They are his “brand name.”
The group, challenged by the prophet because they are smug and comfortably insulated from a perishing world in their warm but untested theology, is not likely to vote him “Man of the year” when he refers to them as habituates of the synagogue of Satan!
The prophet comes to set up that which is upset. His work is to call into line those who are out of line! He is unpopular because he opposes the popular in morality and spirituality. In a day of faceless politicians and voiceless preachers, there is not a more urgent national need than that we cry to God for a prophet! The function of the prophet, as Austin-Sparks once said, “has almost always been that of recovery.”
The prophet is God’s detective seeking for a lost treasure. The degree of his effectiveness is determined by his measure of unpopularity. Compromise is not known to him.
He has no price tags.
He is totally “otherworldly.”
He is unquestionably controversial and unpardonably hostile.
He marches to another drummer!
He breathes the rarefied air of inspiration.
He is a “seer” who comes to lead the blind.
He lives in the heights of God and comes into the valley with a “thus saith
the Lord.”
He shares some of the foreknowledge of God and so is aware of
impending judgment.
He lives in “splendid isolation.”
He is forthright and outright, but he claims no birthright.
His message is “repent, be reconciled to God or else…!”
His prophecies are parried.
His truth brings torment, but his voice is never void.
He is the villain of today and the hero of tomorrow.
He is excommunicated while alive and exalted when dead!
He is dishonored with epithets when breathing and honored with
epitaphs when dead.
He is a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, but few “make the grade” in his class.
He is friendless while living and famous when dead.
He is against the establishment in ministry; then he is established as a saint
by posterity.
He eats daily the bread of affliction while he ministers, but he feeds the Bread of
Life to those who listen.
He walks before men for days but has walked before God for years.
He is a scourge to the nation before he is scourged by the nation.
He announces, pronounces, and denounces!
He has a heart like a volcano and his words are as fire.
He talks to men about God.
He carries the lamp of truth amongst heretics while he is lampooned by men.
He faces God before he faces men, but he is self-effacing.
He hides with God in the secret place, but he has nothing to hide in
the marketplace.
He is naturally sensitive but supernaturally spiritual.
He has passion, purpose and pugnacity.
He is ordained of God but disdained by men.
Our national need at this hour is not that the dollar recover its strength, or that we save face over the Watergate affair, or that we find the answer to the ecology problem. We need a God-sent prophet!
I am bombarded with talk or letters about the coming shortages in our national life: bread, fuel, energy. I read between the lines from people not practiced in scaring folk. They feel that the “seven years of plenty” are over for us. The “seven years of famine” are ahead. But the greatest famine of all in this nation at this given moment is a FAMINE OF THE HEARING OF THE WORDS OF GOD (Amos 8:11).
Millions have been spent on evangelism in the last twenty-five years. Hundreds of gospel messages streak through the air over the nation every day. Crusades have been held; healing meetings have made a vital contribution. “Come-outers” have “come out” and settled, too, without a nation-shaking revival. Organizers we have. Skilled preachers abound. Multi-million dollar Christian organizations straddle the nation. BUT where, oh where, is the prophet? Where are the incandescent men fresh from the holy place? Where is the Moses to plead in fasting before the holiness of the Lord for our moldy morality, our political perfidy, and sour and sick spirituality?
GOD’S MEN ARE IN HIDING UNTIL THE DAY OF THEIR SHOWING FORTH. They will come. The prophet is violated during his ministry, but he is vindicated by history.
There is a terrible vacuum in evangelical Christianity today. The missing person in our ranks is the prophet. The man with a terrible earnestness. The man totally otherworldly. The man rejected by other men, even other good men, because they consider him too austere, too severely committed, too negative and unsociable.
Let him be as plain as John the Baptist.
Let him for a season be a voice crying in the wilderness of modern theology and
stagnant “churchianity.”
Let him be as selfless as Paul the apostle.
Let him, too, say and live, “This ONE thing I do.”
Let him reject ecclesiastical favors.
Let him be self-abasing, nonself-seeking, nonself-projecting, nonself- righteous,
nonself-glorying, nonself-promoting.
Let him say nothing that will draw men to himself but only that which will move
men to God.
Let him come daily from the throne room of a holy God, the place where he has
received the order of the day.
Let him, under God, unstop the ears of the millions who are deaf through the
clatter of shekels milked from this hour of material mesmerism.
Let him cry with a voice this century has not heard because he has seen a vision
no man in this century has seen. God send us this Moses to lead us from the
wilderness of crass materialism, where the rattlesnakes of lust bite us and where
enlightened men, totally blind spiritually, lead us to an ever-nearing Armageddon.
God have mercy! Send us PROPHETS!
Thank you, Pastor John. This is very helpful and clarifying very practical questions about the gift of prophecy! Dt 18:20-22 "20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him."
How to manage the erea exodus,,
Prophecy is divine revelation It can only come from the Holy Spirit who knows the hearts and minds and exists in the future as well as today.
Prophesy is building up and edifying others not predicting the future. The old testament focused on warnings and foretelling that were abused my mediums, astrologers, and fortune tellers much like the experience he had with his wife. So sad.
Excellent teaching by a very humble, godly man.
I could just give him the biggest hug. May God bless him and his family. I love his wife’s name btw❤
I hear a lot of “God Told Me” these days. Buddy, if God told you, and you tell them, they will know God is speaking if they Have the Holy Spirit.
If it is from the Word of God (exactly) then you say “Thus says the Lord”. It’s simple.
Let’s major on GODS FRUIT
and then hopefully HIS gifts will flow more peacefully
I, too, have had terrible experiences and have fabricated so many "prophecies" that I came to despise it. But coming back to Scripture is refreshing. I pray the Lord guides me and helps me understand more on the topic and helps to be consistent with His word.
Brilliant!
I love listening to this man.
If you say, "Thus sayest The Lord…." and what follows is not aligned with the bible or is less than 100% accurate in its execution (not coming to pass as stated), then it is a lie and the one who spoke it is a liar and a false prophet. God has not become a God of 50% accuracy…… wake up people; stop falling for the false prophets schemes and fame mongers and moneymaking tactics.
I loved the 1st Thessalonians 5:19 reference hadn’t thought of that verse great encouragement
For 1 Cor. 14:3, the KJV says "to edification" (instruct or improve someone morally or intellectually), "and exhortation" (to give warnings or urgent advise), "and comfort" (to strengthen; to invigorate; to cheer or enliven). So, prophesy isn’t always glittery news. It is good, in the sense that it can benefit those who hear it, drawing them to the Lord, toward eternal salvation and entry into the Heaven to come.
My name is scifi …I have Christ consciousness. Timothy Shane cole was the name given to me at birth …I need help 101 lol LoL ioi NOw! I need help!
Years ago, a friend of mine who was raised Christian went through a really rough time. His grandparents raised him and his grandfather died. He decided that God wasn’t real. I sat out one night and got in a heated yet brotherly conversation with him about every doubt he had. He’d look online and pull up different arguments and I never had to pull out my phone for anything, the Holy Spirit just gave me guidance, instantly refuting every single point he made. And he never told me that it changed anything, and I wouldn’t take the credit even if he did, but today, that man is a Christian with a wife and a beautiful baby boy. And whether our conversation had anything to do with his change of heart or not, I am so thankful to the Lord that he would let ME experience that. God is so good!!!
Holy Spirit’s Covenant. Events taken place in the most Holy place of the Sanctuary in Heaven.
Love this man and his humility. As a continuationist pastor, I appreciate his teachings and approach to the gifts of the Spirit. More charismatics should be marking John Piper at the top of their list of teachers to listen to and learn from.
Thank you Pastor John for your commitment to the word of God. On many occasions I find that in a sea of bad preaching there are the few great men who stand out with the truth. Your videos are always life giving and answered hard questions I’ve struggled with. Thank you for being committed to the truth and shepherding the flock of God with humility.
We’re sinners going to hell but Jesus died so you can have eternal life. Repent and trust in Him only as your savior (not on being a good person)
Isn’t interpretation of speaking in " tongues" interpretation ?
Thank you Pastor!
So often a word of wisdom (or knowledge) is false, simply because it’s not nearly miraculously insightful enough to be divinely inspired; neither is it presenting a message that’s useful.
A perfect example of a legitimate word of wisdom is the prophecy that a famine would come in Acts 11:27-30. It was a word that came to pass, and preparing for the famine saved lives…
But when people stand up at prayer meetings and say, "Behold, the Lord says ‘I am with thee, and thou art with me, and we are together. So fear not, for I am with thee…’" – it’s someone using vague, pseudo-spiritual language to pawn off that they’re a prophet.
And people do it for the same reason Pharisees pray in public: because we want to be admired by the synagogue people. Raise the standard and you’ll get rid of a world of false utterances.
5:05-5:35 She/He who has ears, hear this testimony about TRUE speaking in tongues from God.
You shouldn’t be asking a cessationist about spiritual gifts.
Somebody help me out. I was told that Piper is a strong Reformed Calvinist and that they are "cessationists," meaning they believe that the "spooky" kinds of gifts ceased with the Apostolic Age. Am I wrong about Piper? If so, how? In this video he even mentions teaching his people to ask for the gift of tongues. I thought that was anathema to Calvinists. What’s the deal?
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It doesn’t sound like there is consensus in the church on what the spiritual gift of prophecy even is.
Thank you, Pastor, you speaking this about using the spiritual gifts encouraged me greatly.
may we seek your spiritual gifts Lord
I thought that this short explanation was helpful: The Apostle Paul did not write “covet to preach”, but rather, “covet to prophesy”.
The Apostle said prophecy is to be coveted above all spiritual gifts. Why? Because by prophecy God speaks by the Spirit to the church directly. Whereas preaching (more properly “teaching“) is second-hand.
I do not refer to that which purports to be prophecy, but to the God-given gift of prophecy which has been tried and tested. That which flows from the Lord Himself through holy vessels, and which edifies the saints of God – building up the Lord’s dwelling house.
Preaching may edify, indeed does often edify, but it is nevertheless “second-hand”. Genuine prophetic utterance is the stream of the Spirit flowing directly into the church, and speaks the living words of God. It is always authoritative, always clear, always pure, always unambiguous. It is God speaking by His Spirit directly to His saints. It carries those who flow in it. It enlightens the understanding in all who “hear what the Spirit is saying“ to them.
It is the “Spirit of prophecy” that is “the testimony (witness – μαρτυρία marturia) of Jesus”.
God does not make convenants with primitives, especially primitives who sacrifice their first born son in order to gain some mystical approval. In order to bargain you need to have something of value, which you don’t have. If you don’t get your way with the universe, what are you going to do, throw a temper tantrum?
When God created the universe He did not ask your permission or advice.
Go get a single grain of sand and place it on your desk and look at it every single day to remind yourself, "This is you."