Biblical Counseling vs. Christian Counseling: What’s the Difference?
Biblical Counseling vs. Christian Counseling: What’s the Difference?
There are some Christians who disagree that the Bible should be used to help us solve our counseling-related problems.
Christians who rely–to one degree or another–on the counseling insights of secular people have been called integrationists, Christian counselors, and Christian psychologists–among other things.
In this video, Dr. Heath Lambert explains how the decision to be a Christian counselor is a theological decision. In order to do that, he will describe areas where biblical counselors agree with their brothers and sisters in Christian counseling, as well as some areas where they disagree.
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Where are the other videos in the series ,cant find them on the channel or is it that they are not all by him
I wonder the reason why people call the Heavenly Father in the Bible as "God"? Just because it is written in the english Bible?
The Bible is the beginning of wisdom, the foundation, not the end.
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I just obey Satan! He told me to Ass fuck Mother Mary!
Best Break down
The Bible teaches that there is a God, that God is a Trinity. The Bible teaches that God is creator alone and holds absolute authority. The Bible teaches that man turned away from Gods truth to follow man’s truth, and all creations was cursed because of this sin. The Bible teaches that man can NOT save himself from Gods wrath, and that a substitutionary attonement would be needed to take that wrath of God. The second person of the Trinity who is the promised Seed, known as the Messiah of God’s chosen nation Israel, and as th Christ to the Gentiles, took on flesh as the substitutionary attonement and took God’s wrath for all those who would believe on Him, whose name is Jesus Christ. The Bible gives insight to man’s sinfulness and even gives insight to righteousness. Secular psychology takes a lot of things out of context which I just mentioned, but just as a medical doctor or veterinarian can view patterns and discrepancies in this natural world, a psychologist can view patterns and discrepancies in human nature and behavior. I believe there is nothing wrong with secular psychology so far as it is looked through the lens of the Bible and understood in context to man’s sin and God’s authority. A pastor and teacher is adept at studying and interpreting scripture, and applying it to people’s lives for guidance, but they are not taught to understand the process of devolvement in the human nature. They understand why, but not how. You take two humans, both who have been betrayed by someone close to them to the extent to cause trauma physically and emotionally, leading to severe trust issues. One has a family behind them that is careful, thoughtful, and patient while the other has either no family or an abusive family. Which human is going to have the easier time transitioning back to a healthy state? A pastor is well equipped to help the first person who then can hand them back over to their family so that he can continue on with his primary job of running the Church, while a psychologist is there to be the help for the one who has no one, to affirm them in Christ and help them when no one else cares.
I basically agree. But, I would add that there is some actual science, mostly in the form of case studies (and other studies of behaviors), that can be useful to Christian counselors if our study of them is illuminated by a solid foundation in the scriptures rather than the philosophies of men. I think that most Christian counselors who look to secular philosophies on the study of the soul, and go to the secular schools of "psychology" become less effective as a Christian counselor rather than more effective. The problem isn’t the 12 oz of water in the glass, but the amount of poison added.
https://youtu.be/8VkPzTQyTg4 has an interestingly simple approach on Counsellor-qualities
Trying to birth eve in me
I believe the big chasm is the doctrine of regeneration
There’s a lot of writings in the bible that go against Jesus’ life example and teachings, such as Paul’s letters and the old testament.
ThANK THE LORD
Thank you Heath!
Check out this blog which speaks about diversified strategies in Christian Counselling https://www.diversifiedwiz.com/2020/05/the-context-of-caribbean-development.html and biblical counselling https://www.diversifiedwiz.com/2020/06/biblical-counselling-dr-lawrence-j.html
Has great insights on each topic and Theorists for both.
A helpful clarification
After about 40 years of counseling Christians, I find one serious problem is that the vast majority of counselors aren’t any good to begin with. Adding scripture doesn’t make that any better. A second serious problem I find is that the vast majority of so-called Christian counselors don’t even apply the Bible to their own lives. How will they apply it to the lives of others? Most counselors are just too young to do anyone much good…like I was.
Biblical counseling is wrong because they claim that the Bible addresses everything. For people that think that I just have on question: how does the Bible say to council someone with schizophrenia? Any answer these people give will not be from the Bible but from their own eisegesis of the Bible.
Well yeah even I don’t like to admit it because I can be stubborn but at the end of the day Gods word is alive and powerful and it can help overcome negative thoughts but helping you discern what is true about your identity and what is not
Or giving you the insight to know what’s going on
God can show you things you didn’t know you had an issue with … things that you want to burry deep inside
My sister AND father are secular Psychologists. Lol! Not now now nevah will I go to a secular therapist. Everything goes.
Before psychology existed, the bible was enough
Wow! This comment section is full of weirdos and ignoramuses who are making me hate the word "biblical"
Are there any Bible Counselors available online?
Any Christian can counsel, but only an elder or one licensed to preach can expound the Bible
False dichotomy
Thank you for clearing that up
Let God be true and every man a liar. Sit not in the council of the unGodly it is written. To incorporate secular sophistry with the council of Elohim is to sit in the council of the unGodly.a Christian who says it’s a good book but should not be used to council mental health is a Lukewarm Christian who should just admit that the Bible isn’t the word from Elohim himself and then become atheist. Because that thinking is as good as telling Elohim that he isn’t all knowing and wise enough to know what is best for us. After all that’s exactly how non believers reason.
I once spoke to a Christian counselor who used both methods, one which worked. I couldn’t sleep because I was doing a dramatic presentation in front of my class the next day. I called her at night. She asked me if I was a Christian. I said yes. She asked me why I didn’t feel the peace of God that would calm me. Well, I didn’t feel any peace. Then she said exactly what I needed to hear. Speaking about my classmates, she said, "They’re not there to criticize you." I believe that came from the Lord, because he knows that performance anxiety is strongly tied to a fear of rejection. With her words, I slept like a baby. The performance was impressive.
Please don’t fall into the trap of worshiping The Book. I have found a medical Dr who was President of The Baptist Church was VERY physically violent to me by putting me through electronic shock therapy to "cure" me of the fact that I am gay which was medically proven. The entire medical profession declassified homosexuality as an illness 50 years ago this year. I am gay and proud of it, though not sexually active. I was a Baptist Pastor and missionary, but now retired.
The sad part is that Counselors that take a biblical approach are being targeted with LGBT legislation. As a Christian Counselor myself who sees the Bible is our authority, is seeing the writing the wall and the coming persecution. My focus is on learning to trust God more to protect my practice for as long as he wants and that he is in control.
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The big difference is that biblical counselors are usually pastoral counselors and sometimes lay counselors. They are usually not licensed. Biblical counselors can’t accept insurance because biblical counseling is not considered evidenced-based. Christain counselors tend to be licensed. They can accept insurance. In order to accept insurance, they have to use evidenced-based practices which are of course secular. These secular practices are a joke.
I believe you can use tools of psychology to help navigate and uncover barriers so people can hear biblical counsel
Biblical counseling and Christian counseling should not be separate, if the Church is healthy. Spiritual vs Medical counseling should be the separation and difference. Any Christian disagreeing that the Bible should be used, are the ones in need of Spiritual Counseling the most.
It seems the "Christian" counselors are just secular psychologists that throw in a few Biblical terms every now and then but dont seem to understand the sufficiency (they probably reject or dont know of the inerrancy of Scripture too but thats another topic) of Scripture. Biblical counseling is discipleship.
The word of God is in separable from a Christian. A Christian is a person the follows the word of God that was made manifest about us.
Why are counselors taught to insert a fallible, incomplete element (themselves) between the individual needing healing and the infallible, sufficient teachings in Scripture? Why not just encourage those who come for help to read the Bible for themselves?
The best, is clinical counseling and if appropriate for the presenting condition and the patient, integrate Christian based interventions.
The Word became flesh – in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. For the Word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and spirit, of joint and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Therefore, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Wisdom comes from the Lord, the Beginning and the End, who never changes, even yesterday, today, and forever. I believe God is our only source of everything, infinite, in control, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent.
The Holy Spirit is called “the councilor”. If you ignore him it not biblical
God set a loophole for human psychology against God’s way in the book of Romans if you read it carefully and God will let them eat their own consequences.and boomerang back to hit themselves. God always says: Your move,Dude ! You decide it . I won’t force you. Bless or curse, life or death – you choose and see. (My seminar counseling learning Jay Adams and I collected many counseling material and I stir fry them together and see what is in them, attitude is very important . Sinners counseling sinners. God is cool. We don’t agitate people . Counseling , do not preaching .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHFFKpksgao&t=471s
I do believe if we trust in the Scriptures, we can solve all of our issues – financial, social, civic, emotional, chemical, physical, biological, mental/psychological, visual, audible, verbal, spiritual, etc.
Note: There is a difference between medicine (surgeries, etc) and Psychology/Psychiatry.
I want to believe God can and will solve my issues by faith. Being a theological argument, Biblical counseling stands and steps forward. I think both solid wisdom and Spiritual Discernment is highly needed here.
One works, is based on solid and replicable results, and the other is untrained Bible thumpers spouting nonsense.
Would it work for brain surgery?
I think there’s a deception in saying that Christian (or integrated) counseling draws from the secular world. More accurately, I think you could say they are redeeming or reclaiming what Christians have allowed the secular world to call their own. Two examples of forgiveness and the dangers of divorce were not foundations that secular counselors focused on for YEARS but have now come to realize are healing elements of counseling. But Christians have known that for millennia. Integrated counselors simply take that back and say that the Bible is sufficient to tell us who God is and who we are in respect to Him. But just like the Bible doesn’t always give practical steps to walk every day, it does promise the Helper who guides through the nuance and messiness that is the human mind.
I want a christian therapist so bad at this point, but they’re so expensive.
While one should never interpret Scripture according to the "light" of psychology, psychology can be helpful as a faulty commentary on Biblical principles.
Two’s company, three’s a crowd. Imagine you feel that over the years you’ve been in a good relationship with your partner, now you have a nagging Mother in Law standing behind your back, judging everything you say and do.
GEEZ she’s had her life and lived it the way she wanted and now she wants to live your life for you and boss you around, you have to live up to her standards and you get the evil eye if you don’t. All the fun and frivolity has gone out of your life and marriage because of her and living has become a drudge.
Well it’s the same with Jesus, your partner has introduced him into your life and you feel he’s standing behind your back judging everything you say and do, he has a multitude of rules you must overcome called “sin” it’s enough to give you a nervous breakdown
How many good marriages and relationships have been broken apart by the introduction of this control freak into people’s lives?
He causes arguments and bad feelings whenever one of the partners takes his side over how you should live your life and every little thing in it.
If your partner begins to show an interest in Jesus and starts to become obsessed with the notion of an invisible guy in the sky you should recognize the danger and put your foot down, tell him or her to discard Jesus before it’s too late, it’s either Jesus or you.
The other option is to begin making plans to change your life and carry those plans through. A new life without Jesus in it.
Imagine going to this so called Heaven and it’s just a continuation of a drab Christian life on Earth with Jesus watching and judging every little thing you do for eternity.
It’s your life and your choice, tell Jesus to take a hike.